Comments on: Teams Announced For PFDebate.com National Public Forum Challenge II

By: Josh Zoffer

Josh Zoffer — Thu, 27 Nov 2008 01:17:03 +0000

I would just like to note that the last two comments made by “Josh Zoffer” were not actually me. That being said, I did actually like the civil disobedience topic. It required logic and theory as opposed to just statistics, which was a nice change of pace. I did not like the Fairness Doctrine…that was just a subpar topic.

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Wed, 26 Nov 2008 12:32:12 +0000

Jordan I am sorry…I had to go off faxed copies of the registration forms…I will note the change.

By: Joey Bengotche

Joey Bengotche — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 14:48:01 +0000

Is this how you spell it? His dad judged us at Blue Key…

By: R-Man

R-Man — Tue, 25 Nov 2008 03:55:13 +0000

uhhh lobbyists sucked….

and civil disobedience was the all time worst resolution ever…we are not LDers and do NOT CARE ABOUT JUSTICE or pursuing it…our standard paradigm is util…we like stacking bodies and seeing who has the smaller stack…don’t be jerks topic committee…give us a res that is a plan of some sort (like all the good res have been)

example

-US preemptive strike on Iran
-soft partition iraq

By: Jordan

Jordan — Mon, 24 Nov 2008 16:40:59 +0000

It’s not Jordan Flanzraish it is Jordan Flanzraich.

By: Leigha Mataosky

Leigha Mataosky — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 05:57:59 +0000

Haha this board is hilarious.

Jesse: I have no idea, but a trend I’ve noticed over the years is that the January topic is usually “awesome” in some aspect. 2006–intelligent design: good, weirdish tho, 2007–lobbyists= AMAZING!, and 2008-civil disobedience=awkward, but interesting, good debate most of the time. I’m not too worried. NFL usually doesn’t let us down in January.

By: R-Man

R-Man — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:57:21 +0000

I thought I had a comment…but I am actually at loss for words…

By: Graeme Crews

Graeme Crews — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 02:03:33 +0000

I’m sorry Maria, you’re right. You won Yale University’s public forum debate tournament. I won the Yale (pronounced “yah-lee”) high school tournament, a 15 team local tournament. Sorry about that confusion Maria.

By: Jesse Kessel

Jesse Kessel — Fri, 21 Nov 2008 00:08:15 +0000

Any guesses on what the topic for January will be?

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 23:44:43 +0000

Weird people out there.

By: Maria-Theresa Gonzalez

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 22:31:21 +0000

Trying to discredit me anyway possible eh? Mr. Crews, it seems as though you have went to the extent of setting up your own website in order to steal my glory!

By: Graeme Crews

Graeme Crews — Thu, 20 Nov 2008 11:58:37 +0000

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez: http://yale.tabroom.com/results/2008/Public%20Forum/

kthanksbye.

By: Jose Bengochea

Jose Bengochea — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:53:40 +0000

Graeme, to answer you I think “mojo” means phony, as in non-legit. Used in a sentence: “That shady person sold me a mojo ipod touch. I touched it and it broke!”
Having gone against Josh at Blue Key they are a very good team. I really don’t understand all the controversy, but these crazy posts make me laugh.

By: Joseph A. Banks

Joseph A. Banks — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 21:14:44 +0000

What Novice Nationals did you win Maria and what year?

By: Maria-Theresa Gonzalez

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 19:33:48 +0000

Actually, I am the 2008 Yale champion in Public Forum Debate and would like someone to prove otherwise! My partner, Raghav Aggarwal, and I won Yale and will return to take the Public Forum Challenge (the partner listed on this page is a typo). And Jay, I am from the Harker school.

By: Graeme Crews

Graeme Crews — Wed, 19 Nov 2008 01:17:45 +0000

Btw, what does “mojo” mean when qualifying a debate tournament? From my knowledge of nats, we shouldn’t critique others for making it through days of grueling competition against many of the best debaters in the nation. There’s a reason they made it that far in the toughest tournament of the year. Intellect, a ton of work, extreme polish under extreme pressure, and a bit of luck come to mind…

And Josh: Thanks for throwing that out there.

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 23:40:34 +0000

I find it humorous that the smack-talk is coming from teams NOT in the Challenge while those IN the Challenge are all polite and what-not!

I am excited about this year’s event. In case you did no t hear, the sponsorship provided by PFDebate.com has been increased to $1500, so the winning team splits $1000, and the 2nd place team splits $500!

By: Josh Zoffer

Josh Zoffer — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:33:09 +0000

Maria: I’m pretty sure you aren’t the 2008 Yale champion, considering Graeme and Leigha won it this year…

Jay: Thanks man.

By: Jay O'Brien

Jay O'Brien — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 22:09:30 +0000

I dont know what you are saying about the team that got 3rd at nationals Shlomo however I can assure you they are certainly deserved of that title along with many other late breaks that they have earned. Also, Maria Theresa Gonzalez…..what school are you from?

By: Rahman Haq

Rahman Haq — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 12:20:58 +0000

Boring, I don’t know if you were trying to be funny or sarcastic or something but I find that post to be rather offensive.

By: Graeme Crews

Graeme Crews — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 11:22:48 +0000

Leigha’s last name is “Mataosky”. Just saying.

It frustrates me when people don’t put their real names (Maria and Boring). If you are going to make a joke, let everyone know your name so we can then congratulate you for the side-splitting laughter you provided us with…

On a better note, the Challenge looks like a potential blood bath. Should be fun. See ya’ll there!

By: Maria-Theresa Gonzalez

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:24:29 +0000

I’m so excited I was selected for the Public Forum Challenge II! As the Yale and Novice National champion, my partner and I worked for all of last year to build up our resume for this tournament. And we love Jason Kline, he’s the man!

By: Shlomo Goldstein

Shlomo Goldstein — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:18:06 +0000

I’m very suspicious about this team that got 3rd at Nationals. That was a pretty mojo tournament from the teams that were in the top 5.

By: Jesse Kessel

Jesse Kessel — Tue, 18 Nov 2008 01:14:06 +0000

I am not quite sure as to why having a large number of North Carolina teams is a bad thing. Every single NC team on the list broke at Wake Forest, and all the NC teams except two have had at least one member attend NFL Nationals in Public Forum. North Carolina is over-represented simply because North Carolina is one of the strongest states in Public Forum. I am quite excited about the competition that we have at the Challenge this year. Hope to see y’all there!

By: Jose Bengochea

Jose Bengochea — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 21:41:29 +0000

I don’t see the big deal, but just to defend myself or clarify confusion, Charlie and I were not able to apply. We had previous commitments, or else we would have been sure to apply. Last year the National Public Forum Challenge and Laird Lewis were splendid tournaments (although again, we were not able to apply) so I’m expecting this one to be a blast as well.

By: Carol Green

Carol Green — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 16:26:21 +0000

There is a novice nationals in Iowa that has Public Forum. I know it was pretty competitive when we went a couple years ago. I would assume it has only grown in recent years.

PFMan, I am confused about “both Harker teams applied”? Harker has 20+ PF teams so could you explain this “oddity” you describe? The statement in itself is confusing.

Harker is honored to have been selected and we look forward to both the Laird Lewis and the PF Challenge in January!

By: R-Man

R-Man — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 13:01:38 +0000

Novice Nationals (Woodward) does not have PF confirmed…so you might wanna strike that from the achievement list.

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 10:36:40 +0000

Good question. A team put that on their application but I cannot verify it. I did not need to verify it because I verified enough info about them, but still, weird….

By: Austin Criden

Austin Criden — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 04:41:28 +0000

We (ransom everglades CS) could not apply based on previous commitments but I am not sure about Jose and Charlie

By: I Love Jay O'Brien

I Love Jay O'Brien — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:44:15 +0000

Jay O’brien will take home the golden key

By: Josh Zoffer

Josh Zoffer — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:42:03 +0000

Jason, does Novice Nationals have PF?

By: Josh Zoffer

Josh Zoffer — Mon, 17 Nov 2008 02:34:39 +0000

PFman: Both of our teams from Durham applied. Idk about Harker, but I know Austin and Amanda and Charlie and Jose from Ransom chose not to apply.

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:57:28 +0000

I am not going to reveal who applied and did not apply.

By: PFman

PFman — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 20:20:40 +0000

Something is odd with that list, both Durham teams and Harker teams applied but only 1/3 Ransom teams applied?

By: R-Man

R-Man — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 18:20:34 +0000

To answer your question, I did not apply.

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 14:38:25 +0000

A perspective on the competitiveness of this field:
NFL Nationals 2008 3rd, 7th, 11th
Novice Nationals Champion 2007
Yale Champions 2008
Wake Champion 2007
Wake Finalist 2007, 2008
Crestian 2007 Champions
Blue Key 2008 Finalists and Semifinalists
Harvard 2008 Semifinalists
Laird Lewis 2008 Finalists
NC State Champions
SC State Champions

And endless Doubles, Octas, Quarters placements at Harvard, UPenn, TOCs, NCFLs, etc. I think this will be a very good Challenge!

By: James Smith

James Smith — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 07:33:00 +0000

It’s not like NC didn’t earn those spots- they have a ton of great teams. This isn’t really any different from any other round robin, its just more publicized because its on this web site. Public Forum RRs always are heavy on the in state teams.

By: J-Man

J-Man — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 02:16:55 +0000

How many teams applied?

By: Jason Kline

Jason Kline — Sun, 16 Nov 2008 01:09:33 +0000

Although we had more applicants this year than last year, we had more proportionally from NC.

Did you apply?

By: R-Man

R-Man — Sat, 15 Nov 2008 19:16:43 +0000

North carolina isnt horribly over-represented or anything…