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Teams Announced For PFDebate.com National Public Forum Challenge II

by PFDebate LLC on November 14, 2008

The Myers Park High School Speech and Debate Team is proud to announce the 2009 accepted teams for the PFDebate.com National Pub­lic Forum Chal­lenge II com­pe­ti­tion to be held fol­low­ing the Laird Lewis Invi­ta­tional at Myers Park High School in Char­lotte, NC on Jan­u­ary 11, 2009.

Teams will be com­pet­ing in three pre­lim rounds, which will deter­mine seed­ing. The sub­se­quent rounds will be double-elimination and challenge-style where the win­ning teams pick their oppo­nents!

Leigha Matoasky & Graeme Crews
Aca­d­e­mic Mag­net High School (SC)

Zachary Winder & Matthias Ng
Amer­i­can Her­itage High School (FL)

Wesely Dixon & Shan­non Far­rell
Amer­i­can Her­itage High School (FL)

Alex Kennedy & Zach Simon­etti
Asheville High School (NC)

Ali McGrath & Jesse Kessel
Asheville High School (NC)

Andrew Cop­land & Mikie Rooney
Cary Acad­emy (NC)

Jay O’Brien & Kellen Heni­ford
Char­lotte Latin School (NC)

Josh Elkin & Rah­man Haq
Cold Spring Har­bor High School (NY)

Grace Wal­lack & Dede Pless
Durham Acad­emy (NC)

Robert Kind­man & Josh Zof­fer
Durham Acad­emy (NC)

Lind­say Young & Deanne Steffy
McDow­ell High School (PA)

Eim­ile Stokes & Joey Heffner
North Meck­len­burg High School (NC)

Jor­dan Flanzraich & Har­ri­son Gruss­mark
Ran­som Ever­glades (FL)

Tay­lor Karns & Christo­pher Oman
Roo­sevelt High School (IA)

Mohit Bansal & Raghav Aggar­wal
The Harker School (CA)

Kaavya Gowda & Kelsey Hilbrich
The Harker School (CA)

{ 40 comments… read them below or add one }

R-Man November 15, 2008 at 2:16 pm

North car­olina isnt hor­ri­bly over-represented or any­thing…

Jason Kline November 15, 2008 at 8:09 pm

Although we had more appli­cants this year than last year, we had more pro­por­tion­ally from NC. 

Did you apply?

J-Man November 15, 2008 at 9:16 pm

How many teams applied?

James Smith November 16, 2008 at 2:33 am

It’s not like NC didn’t earn those spots– they have a ton of great teams. This isn’t really any dif­fer­ent from any other round robin, its just more pub­li­cized because its on this web site. Pub­lic Forum RRs always are heavy on the in state teams.

Jason Kline November 16, 2008 at 9:38 am

A per­spec­tive on the com­pet­i­tive­ness of this field:
NFL Nation­als 2008 3rd, 7th, 11th
Novice Nation­als Cham­pion 2007
Yale Cham­pi­ons 2008
Wake Cham­pion 2007
Wake Final­ist 2007, 2008
Cres­t­ian 2007 Cham­pi­ons
Blue Key 2008 Final­ists and Semi­fi­nal­ists
Har­vard 2008 Semi­fi­nal­ists
Laird Lewis 2008 Final­ists
NC State Cham­pi­ons
SC State Cham­pi­ons

And end­less Dou­bles, Octas, Quar­ters place­ments at Har­vard, UPenn, TOCs, NCFLs, etc. I think this will be a very good Chal­lenge!

R-Man November 16, 2008 at 1:20 pm

To answer your ques­tion, I did not apply.

PFman November 16, 2008 at 3:20 pm

Some­thing is odd with that list, both Durham teams and Harker teams applied but only 1/3 Ran­som teams applied?

Jason Kline November 16, 2008 at 3:57 pm

I am not going to reveal who applied and did not apply.

Josh Zoffer November 16, 2008 at 9:34 pm

PFman: Both of our teams from Durham applied. Idk about Harker, but I know Austin and Amanda and Char­lie and Jose from Ran­som chose not to apply.

Josh Zoffer November 16, 2008 at 9:42 pm

Jason, does Novice Nation­als have PF?

I Love Jay O'Brien November 16, 2008 at 9:44 pm

Jay O’brien will take home the golden key

Austin Criden November 16, 2008 at 11:41 pm

We (ran­som ever­glades CS) could not apply based on pre­vi­ous com­mit­ments but I am not sure about Jose and Char­lie

Jason Kline November 17, 2008 at 5:36 am

Good ques­tion. A team put that on their appli­ca­tion but I can­not ver­ify it. I did not need to ver­ify it because I ver­i­fied enough info about them, but still, weird.…

R-Man November 17, 2008 at 8:01 am

Novice Nation­als (Wood­ward) does not have PF confirmed…so you might wanna strike that from the achieve­ment list.

Carol Green November 17, 2008 at 11:26 am

There is a novice nation­als in Iowa that has Pub­lic Forum. I know it was pretty com­pet­i­tive when we went a cou­ple years ago. I would assume it has only grown in recent years.

PFMan, I am con­fused about “both Harker teams applied”? Harker has 20+ PF teams so could you explain this “odd­ity” you describe? The state­ment in itself is con­fus­ing.

Harker is hon­ored to have been selected and we look for­ward to both the Laird Lewis and the PF Chal­lenge in Jan­u­ary!

Jose Bengochea November 17, 2008 at 4:41 pm

I don’t see the big deal, but just to defend myself or clar­ify con­fu­sion, Char­lie and I were not able to apply. We had pre­vi­ous com­mit­ments, or else we would have been sure to apply. Last year the National Pub­lic Forum Chal­lenge and Laird Lewis were splen­did tour­na­ments (although again, we were not able to apply) so I’m expect­ing this one to be a blast as well.

Jesse Kessel November 17, 2008 at 8:14 pm

I am not quite sure as to why hav­ing a large num­ber of North Car­olina teams is a bad thing. Every sin­gle NC team on the list broke at Wake For­est, and all the NC teams except two have had at least one mem­ber attend NFL Nation­als in Pub­lic Forum. North Car­olina is over-represented sim­ply because North Car­olina is one of the strongest states in Pub­lic Forum. I am quite excited about the com­pe­ti­tion that we have at the Chal­lenge this year. Hope to see y’all there!

Shlomo Goldstein November 17, 2008 at 8:18 pm

I’m very sus­pi­cious about this team that got 3rd at Nation­als. That was a pretty mojo tour­na­ment from the teams that were in the top 5.

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez November 17, 2008 at 8:24 pm

I’m so excited I was selected for the Pub­lic Forum Chal­lenge II! As the Yale and Novice National cham­pion, my part­ner and I worked for all of last year to build up our resume for this tour­na­ment. And we love Jason Kline, he’s the man!

Graeme Crews November 18, 2008 at 6:22 am

Leigha’s last name is “Mataosky”. Just say­ing.

It frus­trates me when peo­ple don’t put their real names (Maria and Bor­ing). If you are going to make a joke, let every­one know your name so we can then con­grat­u­late you for the side-splitting laugh­ter you pro­vided us with…

On a bet­ter note, the Chal­lenge looks like a poten­tial blood bath. Should be fun. See ya’ll there!

Rahman Haq November 18, 2008 at 7:20 am

Bor­ing, I don’t know if you were try­ing to be funny or sar­cas­tic or some­thing but I find that post to be rather offen­sive.

Jay O'Brien November 18, 2008 at 5:09 pm

I dont know what you are say­ing about the team that got 3rd at nation­als Shlomo how­ever I can assure you they are cer­tainly deserved of that title along with many other late breaks that they have earned. Also, Maria Theresa Gonzalez.….what school are you from?

Josh Zoffer November 18, 2008 at 5:33 pm

Maria: I’m pretty sure you aren’t the 2008 Yale cham­pion, con­sid­er­ing Graeme and Leigha won it this year…

Jay: Thanks man.

Jason Kline November 18, 2008 at 6:40 pm

I find it humor­ous that the smack-talk is com­ing from teams NOT in the Chal­lenge while those IN the Chal­lenge are all polite and what-not!

I am excited about this year’s event. In case you did no t hear, the spon­sor­ship pro­vided by PFDebate.com has been increased to $1500, so the win­ning team splits $1000, and the 2nd place team splits $500!

Graeme Crews November 18, 2008 at 8:17 pm

Btw, what does “mojo” mean when qual­i­fy­ing a debate tour­na­ment? From my knowl­edge of nats, we shouldn’t cri­tique oth­ers for mak­ing it through days of gru­el­ing com­pe­ti­tion against many of the best debaters in the nation. There’s a rea­son they made it that far in the tough­est tour­na­ment of the year. Intel­lect, a ton of work, extreme pol­ish under extreme pres­sure, and a bit of luck come to mind…

And Josh: Thanks for throw­ing that out there.

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez November 19, 2008 at 2:33 pm

Actu­ally, I am the 2008 Yale cham­pion in Pub­lic Forum Debate and would like some­one to prove oth­er­wise! My part­ner, Raghav Aggar­wal, and I won Yale and will return to take the Pub­lic Forum Chal­lenge (the part­ner listed on this page is a typo). And Jay, I am from the Harker school.

Joseph A. Banks November 19, 2008 at 4:14 pm

What Novice Nation­als did you win Maria and what year?

Jose Bengochea November 19, 2008 at 4:53 pm

Graeme, to answer you I think “mojo” means phony, as in non-legit. Used in a sen­tence: “That shady per­son sold me a mojo ipod touch. I touched it and it broke!”
Hav­ing gone against Josh at Blue Key they are a very good team. I really don’t under­stand all the con­tro­versy, but these crazy posts make me laugh.

Graeme Crews November 20, 2008 at 6:58 am

Maria-Theresa Gon­za­lez: http://yale.tabroom.com/results/2008/Public%20Forum/

kthanks­bye.

Maria-Theresa Gonzalez November 20, 2008 at 5:31 pm

Try­ing to dis­credit me any­way pos­si­ble eh? Mr. Crews, it seems as though you have went to the extent of set­ting up your own web­site in order to steal my glory!

Jason Kline November 20, 2008 at 6:44 pm

Weird peo­ple out there.

Jesse Kessel November 20, 2008 at 7:08 pm

Any guesses on what the topic for Jan­u­ary will be?

Graeme Crews November 20, 2008 at 9:03 pm

I’m sorry Maria, you’re right. You won Yale University’s pub­lic forum debate tour­na­ment. I won the Yale (pro­nounced “yah-lee”) high school tour­na­ment, a 15 team local tour­na­ment. Sorry about that con­fu­sion Maria.

R-Man November 20, 2008 at 9:57 pm

I thought I had a comment…but I am actu­ally at loss for words…

Leigha Mataosky November 21, 2008 at 12:57 am

Haha this board is hilar­i­ous.

Jesse: I have no idea, but a trend I’ve noticed over the years is that the Jan­u­ary topic is usu­ally “awe­some” in some aspect. 2006 – intel­li­gent design: good, weirdish tho, 2007 – lob­by­ists= AMAZING!, and 2008-civil disobedience=awkward, but inter­est­ing, good debate most of the time. I’m not too wor­ried. NFL usu­ally doesn’t let us down in Jan­u­ary.

Jordan November 24, 2008 at 11:40 am

It’s not Jor­dan Flanzraish it is Jor­dan Flanzraich.

R-Man November 24, 2008 at 10:55 pm

uhhh lob­by­ists sucked.…

and civil dis­obe­di­ence was the all time worst res­o­lu­tion ever…we are not LDers and do NOT CARE ABOUT JUSTICE or pur­su­ing it…our stan­dard par­a­digm is util…we like stack­ing bod­ies and see­ing who has the smaller stack…don’t be jerks topic committee…give us a res that is a plan of some sort (like all the good res have been)

exam­ple

–US pre­emp­tive strike on Iran
–soft par­ti­tion iraq

Joey Bengotche November 25, 2008 at 9:48 am

Is this how you spell it? His dad judged us at Blue Key…

Jason Kline November 26, 2008 at 7:32 am

Jor­dan I am sorry…I had to go off faxed copies of the reg­is­tra­tion forms…I will note the change.

Josh Zoffer November 26, 2008 at 8:17 pm

I would just like to note that the last two com­ments made by “Josh Zof­fer” were not actu­ally me. That being said, I did actu­ally like the civil dis­obe­di­ence topic. It required logic and the­ory as opposed to just sta­tis­tics, which was a nice change of pace. I did not like the Fair­ness Doctrine…that was just a sub­par topic.

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