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Myers Park High School from Charlotte, NC has qualified two Public Forum Debate teams to the NFL National Tournament in Las Vegas.
Q1: Myers Park: Sean Ege & Everett Lozzi
Q2: Myers Park: Lee Schuitema & Ramy El Kalioby
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Vile and Disgusting!
hahahaha
looks like Myers Park dominated that one..
Sean and Everett got 2 byes in the tournament (even though they dropped to asheville’s jesse kessel and ali mcgrath in round 1). pretty illegit if u ask me.
say what you want, but you have to win when it matters, not just early on….they won when they had to and the rest was pure luck, its not illegitmate, its simply luck of the draw
first of all buddy, Sean and Everett did not have two byes. From the beginning a bye was floating around to everyone. Riley Hurst also got one. The other “bye” was Sean and Everett having to hit their own team which is not right to debate them (creates distance between eachother). so dont complain about it. last year jesse kessel lost in the first stage but later qualified so think about that. also it is illogical not to have ALL of your evidence at districts…
The Key thing to remember is that the way the tournament was held went directly under the NFL guidelines. Everett and Sean worked hard to get where they are and defeated all of their opponents in the late rounds. As for the fact that Jesse and Ali beat Sean and Everett in the prelim rounds of the tournament, it matters on how you do later on in the rounds. Also, Ali and Jesse were knocked out of the tournament so they were not even in finals. Therefore, I don’t believe that any team within this tournament has the right to complain as any finalist was knocked out by the qualifiers. While its a rough break, the tab staff used the nfl rules and Everett and Sean only drew one bye which (Riley Hurst also drew as well as 3 other teams throughout the day.
dropping once at the beginning of the tournament doesn’t make you illegit. No public forum team in the tournament was undefeated so by your standards there couldn’t have been a legitimate win. They didnt’d get two byes they got one, and both the second and third place teams received byes also. they were picked up over another myers park team in what i am assuming you are reffering to as their other bye which is in no way illegitimate. asheville’s jesse kessel and ali mcgrath were fairly defeated twice so it doesn’t matter if they beat sean and everett first round. sean and everett beat who they had to beat when they had to beat them and clearly deserve the spot that they got.
I will not hide my name.
I would like anyone to show the ‘illigit’ things that the tabroom did at Carolina West.
Remember, Mr. Pittman (from Asheville, Jesse’s coach) paired the rounds with me and Mrs. Nicholas (from Bob Jones).
Still, I feel really vile and disgusting about everything.
They won.
It’s over.
No need to be sore losers.
First of all, To those at Asheville, I observed the final round and let me say: Myers Park Knew their stuff, I don’t know ES but they did a fine job on stats Asheville needed to be better prepared and actually use legit resources or actual facts. It is not Myers Parks fault that they were the better prepared team and that Sean and Everett drew the bye. All teams were very good and it stinks that only 2 qualified from the same school but even though my school didn’t qualify anyone…the important thing is to send two strong teams to represent our district well at nationals. So try and be supportive.
lol, mpdebate. my point was dropping early yet still getting 2 byes (not having to debate against yost and scholls and then bying to nats in the next round) in the tournament is illegit. just as no law is inherently good b/c its a law, no nfl guideline is legit just b/c its a nfl guideline.
on the outside looking in on the carolina west results, i find it extremely odd that 2 myers park B teams qualled over angelica and jesse as well as asheville’s A team of jesse and ali. smacks of illegitimacy…
Ok well Jesse and Ali didn’t know crap about their sources.
one of the myers park b teams you are reffering to legitimately knocked out jesse and ali so i dont find it odd that they didn’t qualify. coaches deciding not to have two of their teams debate eachother is not illegitimate. and they received the bye the last round because they were the only team left in the tournament that hadn’t had a bye (Hurst/Beveridge had it the round before and ramy and lee had it the second round of the tournament). it would have been illegitimate if somebody else had been awarded the bye. there is nothing illegit about the way that they qualed.
Ok:
A.) The byes were only possible to go to Everett and Sean as they were the only team that had not yet received one.
B.) Jesse you dropped from the tournament- how is this NOT legit? Isn’t it true if two teams beat you- then you shouldn’t have placed??
C.) The so called “A” teams were defeated. I don’t believe that this letter you are placing in front of your name automatically qualifies you for nationals.
D.) Maybe you should re think calling yourself the A team.
E.) Just because you believe you are the A team from Asheville doesn’t mean you qualify higher than all the Myers Park debaters.
F.) Why are you so upset about Sean and Everett- we did nothing to you.
G.) It would be one thing if the other teams also went undefeated but they did not. Truly I believe that if you had hit North meck they would have crushed you.
congratulations to both Sean and Everett, and Ramy and Lee for their hard work. I would certainly not question the legitimacy of their qualification, though I would disagree with the RFD in our round against them. Judges should ask to see evidence if they don’t believe it is real, instead of discounting it. Oh well, lesson learned, Asheville now knows to strike that judge.
What is vile and disgusting is how coaches have browbeat their debaters into lying about their competitors actions regardless of how nice and pleasant their competitors were after the round. The accusation of both stealing and of falsification of evidence are clearly indicative of some peoples drive to win at all costs, regardless of what the truth is. I guess tactics differ greatly in debate, as Asheville’s coach would never consider prepping any of our debaters out on other teams cases. But to each their own, and obviously these tactics worked quite well.
Again, congratulations to Sean/Everett, and Ramy/Lee. I hope that all competitors involved are able to have their integrity upheld, and not pick up the bad habits that ruin debate for all involved.
frustrated,
Is your standard that no one should qualify if they drop to Jesse Kessel and Ali McGrath? I will call Scott Wunn and suggest that the NFL adopt that standard if you can legitimize it for me.
And the NFL rules are quite good, actually. They are easily the most fair and complete rules for pairing debates in the country. I cannot think of a more fair system. The point is, what we label as an “A” team (I do not know how you derive Jesse and Ali as the “A” team of Asheville, what have they accomplished? Other Asheville teams got much further at tournaments.) is only reflection of past performance. Why have a district championship at all if it is ‘illegit’ for a “B” team to qualify? Why not just allow for coaches choice? Or maybe cast lots.
The talk of ‘TWO BYES’ reflects a real lack of knowledge about how things are done and why they are the best way to do things. Two squads being forced against each other is considered the biggest ‘bad’ thing to the NFL. But when it has to happen, as it did for Myers Park in Round 5, the school has the right to select the team to advance. When you advance over teammates, it is not considered a ‘good’ thing. But it has to happen. In that particular round, it was because ASHEVILLE got the BYE that Myers Park had to hit itself. Had Ege/Lozzi or Scholl/Yost drawn the BYE, then there would have been a pairing where no school would have hit itself. But the BYE is always drawn first and at random from the teams that had not previously had a BYE. I was sure to have both Mr. Pittman and Mrs. Nicholas present when the computer (yes, the COMPUTER) chose the BYE. It did, and thus we had the pairing we had.
I do not know why I bother to explain this to you, but I want everyone who is reading this thread to know that ‘frustrated’ really should be called ‘unaware’ or ‘unclear on how districts works.’
oh i’m sorry, i didn’t know an A-team being beat was illegitmate…I’ll be sure to remember that next time
its funny
the non a-team beat MP CS in the 3 round
kline, youre comments are rude and uncalled for.
for you to bash jesse and ali after they offer congratulations to your team is immature.
to Jesse What The Heck???:
I post under my own name, because I believe it’s dishonest to post under a pseudonym.
Please don’t put words in my mouth.
Kessel,
There were 3 judges in the round against lee and ramy, i guess all of them had a grudge against you and all made illegitimate decisions and you should strike all 3 of them next time they judge you..
The MP coach could not “prep their debators out on the opponents case” as he was working in tab all day and couldn’t even come into where the student’s were between rounds
“What is vile and disgusting is how coaches have browbeat their debaters into lying about their competitors actions regardless of how nice and pleasant their competitors were after the round”…if you consider ‘nice and pleasant’ as badmouthing the opponents coach that knocked you out of the tournament, then you were undoubtedly nice and pleasant
Just because you dropped out at districts, doesn’t mean you can take out your frustration on the dominance of the opposing teams and schools,make false accusations about a coach prepping a team out when it was just the team beating you that badly that it may have seemed like he prepped them out, bad mouth the coach of the year, and question the decision of a 3 JUDGE PANEL.
Good luck at states.
The fact that this is even being discussed is ridiculous. Districts are supposed to qualify those to the national tournament that are QUALIFIED. The way it plays out is independent of previous performances. Congratulations to Ramy/Lee and Sean/Everett. They both deserve to go and worked hard to get there. In my opinion, Myers Park had four A-teams present. And, Myers Park showed that they were qualified to go.
districts was fun
beating one team in the third round does not mean that you should qualify over them. if you are unable to win when it matters you don’t qualify. every team in the tournament was beaten by someone so it is ridiculous to say that this is an illegitimate qual. as for the evidence issue, no action was taken in an attempt to dq you from the tournament. furthermore, if you are unable to provide evidence in round when asked for it the judge has every right to consider it in their rfd. also i’m not sure what reference you are making to myers park coaches prepping their teams out on other people’s cases, our coaches did not do this and it would be fairly surprising if you, from the other side of the cafeteria, heard this when we didn’t.
yeah
frustrated (i.e. me previously) isnt jesse kessel (just for clarification purposes)
as for the bye issue, any team getting 2 byes in a tournament and still being Q1 just doesnt sit well w/ me.
nfl district rules are not “easily the most fair and complete rules for pairing debates in the country”. i find that a tournament that only guarantees 2 rounds w/ 1 judge in each round is not fair or complete. although against the spirit of pfd, i offer a plan: 4 guaranteed rounds and depending on the teams entered, a break that then commences w/ a double elim structure. in other words, a mini-nats.
in any case, im just disappointed w/ the results from carolina west. i expected much harder competition at nats from an overall amazing pfd state.
States 2008 - There will be blood.
i think it is extremely unfortunate that teams that were beat legitimately feel the need to make personal attacks on other coaches. the two teams that qualified in this district did so throught legitimate wins. the myers park coaches were not prepping out their teams on other peoples cases. our teams beat you legitimately and i am sorry if you are upset about this but you don’t see north meck teams on here complaining about losing to those same teams. you being considered the “A team” at your school does not mean that your loss is illegitimate. blaming judges making decisions based on the wrong things, other coaches, other teams lying and illegitimate byes and the system for your loss is not only ridiculous but disrespectful to those who worked hard and did well.
….well thats one more debate we just won.
This one illegitimate too?
This is ridiculous,
continue with your witch hunt.
I am going to Vegas this summer anyways, good luck to all of my fellow competitors.
Would you all just read the district tournament manual, please…
so your saying that since the qualifiers BEAT the good teams in an “overall amazing pfd states”, the qualifiers themselves aren’t good?
I dont even do PF. I do DI/DUO/and OI and I go to MP.
You need to be happy for Ramy/Lee and Everett/Sean
A by is a by and it happens. If you lose, don’t be a sore loser. Seriously, because it makes you look bad.
Congrats to everyone at districts, even if you didn’t qual. you still have States and next year.
Congrats to Ramy/Lee and Everett/Sean
You guys totally deserve it.
Ok First of all:
1. I can’t believe that I am reading all of this. I believe that it is in poor taste to be so bitter about districts. Yes, not qualifying is disappointing, and I believe that all of us have been there at some point in time. But Jesse, what is sad is the fact that you QUALIFIED to go. I would be ashamed to cause such a scene when I knew that I was already getting to go.
2. I think that it is an dishonor to discredit the Tab room staff especially when your own coach is working in there and knowing the hours that our coaches give up just to make it possible to attend district tournaments.
3. The field at this years district tournament was a tough one. It proved to have many “A” teams. While I feel as though an “A” team ceases to exist in many large schools such as Myers Park, I think that all the teams at districts had a shot at NFLS. Also, Had I been one of your team members I would have taken much offense to the fact that you call them the B team. They did quite well this weekend and HAD you drawn the BYE you may have found yourself in a similar position to that of Everett and Sean. They did not TAKE the bye but it was just luck of the draw. In fact, had they not received the Bye. Myers Park may have claimed the TOP 3 spots at Districts.
4. In our round, we had a three panel judge. We asked for evidence in both our summary and crossfire rounds and when you could provide no evidence to back up your contingency about Washington state, then the EVIDENCE that we had ON HAND in the ROUND was used. Not only did one judge vote against you. Others did two. If you believe this was because all of the judges were tainted against you then fine. But I take offense to the fact that you would later come online and bash a team that you were quite nice to. That is what I don’t see as pleasant and nice. I will be happy to type all of the RFDs offered on the ballots if you would like, it was a close round and I am sorry that it had to come down to the wire, but that is what makes debate fun and exciting.
5. While some of my team members did not post online using there name, I feel as though you should offer more credit to Sean and Everett (who broke at National tournaments- some you did not) and should account for the fact that neither Sean nor Everett were rude or mean to you. They won the debates when it mattered and were gracious winners. It is a shame we cannot say the same about all of the losers or competitors of the tournament. Lee
viva las vegas
To Unaware:
“i expected much harder competition at nats from an overall amazing pfd state.”
>>>>I’m sorry but didnt you LOSE two rounds to two different teams (MP or not) I dont know who you are but I have a feeling since you are posting on this site you may have had the opportunity to have a three panel judge.
This drama is amazing…but rude at the same time. So here is how it plays out. First of all, I appreciate the “congratulations” jesse. Next, Jesse will still be going to Nationals because of his congress performance. Next, if you never hit Everett and I at districts, please do not badmouth us because it seems illogical t do so. Finally, debate is all about FUN guys. You all know that you have more knowledge than your other friends that don’t do debate so be proud of that. Next, our coach does not prep us against other teams. Our coach is one of the strictest on the rules and does things so that everyone has a fair chance. You accuse of prepping; however, he doesn’t tell us the month’s topic before the date we should learn,he plays by the rules because Mr Kline basically created Public Forum Debate. I mean he wrote a book called “Public Forum Debate” which was I believe #980,4… i forget.
How about everyone just focuses on bringing their A-game to TFL States because I believe it will be big this year. I believe there will be some good competition so see you all in a month!
You may not like the way NFL District tournaments are conducted, but the rules and tournament procedures are meticulously spelled out, the table room is run by personnel by multiple schools, their is a grievance committee, and the NFL National office has to certify the results. You are far more likely to get errors or political placements at regular tournaments.
Two teams from the same school paired against each other where no debate takes place is not a bye. One team took a down and the other took a win.
Thank you Mr. Jordan.
Look people, districts is a weird competition however the rules are clear and fairly objective. In our district (NE) we lost to a team first round that was later beaten by my little sister and a novice who had never done any form of debate before. I personally don’t believe that this means we “shouldn’t” have qualified.
One thing I will say is that if you run unique points it is always a good idea to have the evidence on hand. It’s just not worth the risk of getting called out. We were eliminated in doubles at Harvard last year because I left a piece of paper on the sofa at home stating that the Trump Casino in Atlantic City went bankrupt.
I suppose the issue I have with this is that people are attacking Everett and Sean (and their coach) instead of the system. To fault Everett and Sean for receiving a coach-over is simply ridiculous. The coach over is intended to prevent a strong team like Myers park from power protecting itself, it’s good for the other teams as it prevents all the MP teams from staying in that particular bracket. I feel bad for the MP team that was presumably eliminated after sustaining only one real loss.
To Lee and Sean,
I am not bashing you,
I am happy for you.
Disagreeing with your coach or the judges who dropped us does not translate into Ali and I disliking either of you.
I wish both of you luck in Vegas and at States.
But please stop putting words in y mouth, Ali and I are disappointed with the way we were treated by your coach, and by our performance. Tis does not mean we hate you, or that we think the tournament is illegitimate. there are outsiders on the board posting things that they obviously have no clue about what happened.
Again, congratulations to Sean/Everett and Ramy/Lee, see you at States.
me too, stubbs.
A better question is: why is it bad for a coach to prep out his or her students? I sort of consider that my job….
But my kids are right…I was in tab all weekend, I only had the chance to come out and answer questions maybe 5 times.
Anyone have suggestions for the National Topic?
And with regard to the competition from Carolina West going to Nationals…MP PFD has placed 5th and 8th at NFLs in the last 3 years. One year was with a team that had little to no experience in PF. Any team I coach is ‘hard competition.’
What the heck did I do?
Or…maybe it was MR. WEST! He is so vile! And disgusting!
all this drama is rediculous.
come on we are in highschool people accept defeat.
and on another note..something that hasn’t been mentioned on this blog yet is the fact that some think it was illigit how MP teams won…yet…..stealing computers and printers from other teams isnt necessarily legit…. just throwing that out there.
and for mr. kline, he didnt do anything to anyone. i dont understand why everyone is attacking the MP coach when he didnt even do anything to any team. as it has been mentioned earlier…mr. pittman was with mr. kline the entire time so there is no way he could have “done” anything to any of the teams. also he didnt have time to congratualte his teams when they advanced let alone go up to other teams and “treat them unfairly” or even prep the MP kids on other people’s cases…i think it is unbelieveable how insane you guys are in saying that mr. kline was being unfair or whatever.
save the drama for actual important matters…..
all this drama is ridiculous.
come on we are in high school people accept defeat.
and on another note..something that hasn’t been mentioned on this blog yet is the fact that some think it was illegit how MP teams won…yet…..stealing computers and printers from other teams isn’t necessarily legit…. just throwing that out there.
and for Mr. Kline, he didn’t do anything to anyone. i don’t understand why everyone is attacking the MP coach when he didn’t even do anything to any team. as it has been mentioned earlier…Mr. Pittman was with Mr. Kline the entire time so there is no way he could have “done” anything to any of the teams. also he didn’t have time to congratulate his teams when they advanced let alone go up to other teams and “treat them unfairly” or even prep the MP kids on other people’s cases…i think it is unbelievable how insane you guys are in saying that Mr. Kline was being unfair or whatever.
save the drama for actual important matters…..
all this drama is ridiculous.my gosh
come on we are in high school people accept defeat.
and on another note..something that hasn’t been mentioned on this blog yet is the fact that some think it was illegit how MP teams won…yet…..stealing computers and printers from other teams isn’t necessarily legit…. just throwing that out there.
and for Mr. Kline, he didn’t do anything to anyone. i don’t understand why everyone is attacking the MP coach when he didn’t even do anything to any team. as it has been mentioned earlier…Mr. Pittman was with Mr. Kline the entire time so there is no way he could have “done” anything to any of the teams. also he didn’t have time to congratulate his teams when they advanced let alone go up to other teams and “treat them unfairly” or even prep the MP kids on other people’s cases…i think it is unbelievable how insane you guys are in saying that Mr. Kline was being unfair or whatever.
save the drama for actual important matters…..
First of all.
Congratulations to all qualifiers.
Second, I have no issue being called a “B-Team” because in truth, we were. It was our second tournament in public forum, and the fact that we did so well is most impressive. Indeed, we can boast a more impressive win record (80%) than any other person on this blog. We were entirely a wild card.
Third, I would strongly encourage all debaters to be polite both in round, and out of round. My partner and I were, honestly, shocked to see the incredible, and at times excessive, competition. At times teams were reduced to questioning reasonable evidence (which is illegal), and going so far as to give speeches or refusing to answer or listen to opponents during Crossfires.
Of course I am accusing no one, I’m simply comparing it to LD, in which my experience is far greater. No one in LD would get away with some of the things that people get away with in PF. It is just surprising.
However, I hold no issues with anyone, and hope to see you all in the future.
And yeah, I’ll post with my name too. It seems Asheville has nothing to hide.
To CD School.. It is my memory that in finals, there were two observers, both from Asheville.
amen.
Congrats to Lee/Ramy and Sean/Everett! I look forward to debating them next year on the circuit and possibly at nats :)!
As for the Nats topic, I am envisioning a NAFTA topic, a legal topic (LD has been inundated w/ them this year, hopefully it’ll spill into PFD), or in keeping with the trend this year w/ PFD, an international relations topic. I’m game for any of those three subjects :D.
CD judged.
Riley,
The two rounds we debated were very enjoyable for me and I am sure you would say the same. However, it is not “illegal” to ask for reasonable evidence. Districts has very meticulous rules on evidence, and you should have anything that you use in your case, in your tub as well. Some of the ‘facts’ in your case were iffy and I chose to call you out on them — it is your responsibility to have evidence on them. Evidence as in real evidence — handing me a blog when I asked for a source is not evidence, and the judges surely frowned upon that. Also I believe you and Ivana picked up 5 out of 9 ballots while Lee and I picked up 8 out of 11, so you don’t exacltely boast the most impressive record on this blog.
Other thank that, thank you for two great rounds that I thoroughly enjoyed, thank you for the competition and good luck to you in future tournaments.
Good suggestions Graeme. I wil put them on my list.
Ramy,
Yes, our rounds were enjoyable. As a team, Ivana and I have won 80% of our rounds. And if you would care to read the NFL rules on Public Forum, then you’d see the only legal reason for calling evidence into question is when it is entirely unreasonable. Secondly though, I’d like to throw out there that the source we handed you was not a blog, and you misread it. It was an article from the nation. That would be quite low brow to misconstrue evidence on purpose, however I’m sure it was a simple misunderstanding. Good luck everyone, and congratulations.
International Relations would be cool, or something on the environment. We haven’t had a science/environment topic for some time. Any topic that allows for creativity of argumentation on both sides.
These were a few of the resolutions revolving around international relations that I conjured:
Resolved: The United Nations is becoming more a danger to human rights enforcement than a defender of such rights.
Resolved: Changing the membership or procedures of the United Nations Security Council could improve its credibility.
Resolved: The UN Security Council has become a barrier towards addressing the rising global threat of international terrorism and rogue states.
I would love to do global warming, but we did Kyoto Protocol 2 years ago. CON: Global Warming isn’t real. Worked like a charm!!
I’m sitting here reading the lamentations of “frustrated” and the grammatically challenged “i would say my name but states is coming up…i dont need enemy’s”, falling out of my chair laughing at the contrived bitterness of two people who evidently don’t understand that however arbitrary districts seems, Myers Park does well because we have a strong coaching staff and draw a very talented group from across the Charlotte region. As long as Myers Park keeps the IB program, it will remain a strong debate school, and we don’t need to be “stealing computers and printers from other teams” (which evidently) “isn’t necessarily legit” to win. The team does fine without resorting to such methods.
Congratulations, and good luck at nationals.
Rainforests or the oceans would be pretty cool. Particularly the oceans…
I almost want a repeat of gambling: perfect for Vegas. But perhaps a biased judging pool…
Specifically I’ll throw out these topics as well: cancellation of 3rd world debt, intervention in nations for humanitarian purposes, efficacy of jury trials (would love this one!), globalization (good for developing nations? good for us?), nafta, preferability two-party systems v. coalition/multiparty govs., and the international criminal court.
I think the best Public Forum topics are those that are in the news (even if they aren’t in the headlines), but have a depth of literature. Last year’s gun control topic, September’s Fairness Doctrine topic, and March’s primaries topic are good examples.
I think the worst topics, especially for nationals, are only ripped from recent headlines (e.g. April). However, I do think topics that are only ripped from the headlines are best-suited for months when there are large numbers of new debaters.
Jesse, you say you’re doing JV at states. But this is your third year buddy. How does that worK? So I guess your coach CAN’T force you to do JV. So that means VARSITY I believe? Anyone on this blog please correct me if I am wrong…
Yeah, I’m advocating a NAFTA topic. It has been a rising issue among the candidates during this election and would probably be fun to debate. Something on whether the US should withdraw or not — it would be an evenly sided topic, with plenty of literature on both sides.
I would actually like to do a topic based on health care……….or AHH THE OLYMPICS…. considering that this happens to be an olympic year….
IE
Resolved: The increased security in the athlete village at the olympic games promotes hostility towards other nations.
Resolved: The current criteria that the International Olympic comittee uses to choose the next location of the olympic games is unjust.
These were some others I have been pondering about……..
Resolved: The federal ban on funding for embryo research is unethical to the citizens of the United States.
Resolved: The existence of US Prision Camps for military enemies (ex. Ghraib and Guantanamo) are contrary to the Democratic beliefs of the United States Government.
Resolved: Physician-assisted suicide should be a legal option for terminally ill patients according to United States Health Care options.
Resolved: It is just to try a minor as an adult when a first degree crime has been comitted.
Resolved: The Current NCAA regulations for the recruitment of high school players is harmfull to collegiate athletic programs.
Resolved: The current Affirmative action practices of colleges and universities is outdated and needs to be removed.
Resolved: The current welfare programs in the United States are the most appropriate way to benefit the citizens.
Let me know what you think!!
I am not a sports-topic fan…all of the sports topics thus far have been blah!
The NBA dress code topic is probably the all-time worst topic in the history of organized debate.
I didn’t D1 athletics was too bad.
A “current NCAA regulations are bad” topic would not have even ground.
I think Title IX, more specifically excluding football from Title IX compliance, would be a heck of a topic.
Given the importance of sports in our culture, you would think we could find interesting, substantive topics that involve athletics.
Sports should definitely not be the nationals topic, but maybe for a normal month. I personally feel sports topic aren’t substantial. There’s so much going on in the world that the NFL shouldn’t encourage sports knowledge but rather knowledge of the key issues of our day.
Save sports for December when nobody does debate.
When will NFLs topic be announced?
I’m not sure I would advocate a sports-related topic for nationals, but I think athletics are worthy of discussion.
The NFL Nationals topic will be released on May 15.
I hated the D1 topic as much as the NBA dress code. Though the NBA dress code was funny because literally no one had anything to say except “racism” and “property rights.”
Bob, if you want, create a thread on the NFL national topic, I think many people would chime in.
Something on Afghanistan or Pakistan would be good, I think. There is an enormous amount of information on the internet and the situation is complex enough that it would allow for a large number of arguments/possible resolutions. I don’t have any specific ideas for specific resolutions, but I think that any topic focusing on the importance of backing military strongmen in Pakistan over civilian authorities would be good (this admittedly might be outdated by nationals unfortunately).
Granted, a topic on backing democracy over US friendly strongmen in general, or in terms of the war on terror (not just Pakistan) might also work.
Whatever happens though, I really don’t want to debate China. I think that recent info from the media would make what should be a two-sided debate one-sided simply due to judges’ bias.
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